Speer prospered and from such humble beginnings (Speer pioneered plating If a bullet is not listed here, follow the manufacturer's I bought 6 of the transparent yellow boxes (grand slams) to work a load for that hunt. Question: Grand Slam used to have two cores. jacket is made with a heavy heel section. The happiest days of my life were spent with Noslers (mostly Partitions) in my hunting rifle! The bulls shoulder was caked in dried clay and, combined with its tough shoulder bones, it proved to be too much for the cup-and-core bullets Nosler was using. that's really my big gripe. Tough expanding bullets, such as the Woodleigh Weldcore, are usually recommended for heart/lung shots. 150 Grand Slam 145 ELD-X 140 A-Frame 140 Partition 140 TSX 140 Accubond 130 Partition 130 TTSX 130 A-Frame All the above bullets will do what you need them to do without any drama. He just fell back on his butt and keeled over dead. The Speer Grand Slam is one of the most popular bullets on the market. I loaded up some 130 gr GS with Norma 204 and Win magnum primers and tried them in my Parker-Hale 270 this morning. I have some of the old 285 gr 375s. Speer is known for discontinuing bullets and they always seem to drop the ones i use. Medium bore rifles It wasn't long after that I heard they were changing them. There are exceptions, of course, such as the bullets designed specifically for very large game. Save Share. If all else fails I have a bunch of 375 H&H brass that I need to fireform to 375 Wby so they'd work to combine load development with brass preparation. preferred bullet and load for your rifle, stick with it. That bulletthe #1400 .224-inch-diameter, 53-grain, flat-base, match hollow-pointjust happens to be the bullet my own .22-250 Remington likes best. bullet, which was introduced some 48 years ago. A 90 grain .243 from any bullet line is probably going to be optimized for use on light framed medium game, such as pronghorn antelope and the smaller deer species. 4. Both are excellent choices. Partitions still are my first choice in most of my rifles. Class 3 game includes such species as wild boar, red stag, elk, moose, kudu, eland, oryx Lets look at some of those designs and how they apply to the range and hunting fields. I like to buy Speer's, and every year it seems they have the promo that they will send you card for 20% when you purchase over $100, they are already the least expensive bullets to buy and that deal make them very hard to pass up. For a while the Grand Slam was challenged within the Speer Joel SlateSlate & Associates, LLCThe Safari Specialistswww.slatesafaris.com, ray@atkinsonhunting.com atkinsonhunting.com. As has been said Speer only makes 140 gr in .264 in the Grand Slam but does make 120 gr in the Gold Dot which is a GREAT bullet. Speer's parent company ATK also owns Fusion, so that makes perfect sense. for a little better BC, i picked up some of the ferderal trophy bonded tip bullets in 140gr and they shoot just as good. There is no definitive answer to this question as it depends on individual preferences and opinions. Unfortunately Federal Premium bought that bullet from Speer and . because I think the Nosler Partition has more than proven itself in the hunting world. The original had a hard rear core with a softer front section, and the inside of the jacket nose was fluted to initiate expansion. bullet jackets with their TMJ handgun bullets.) Use sandbags or a commercial rifle Shoot a few whitetails with 150gr grand slams out of a .308 win when I was a kid. World's most popular community & resource for hunting in Africa since 2007. There are some classic designsthose our grandfathers usedthat are still viable choices and that remain highly useful and affordable options for the hunter and shooter. Take, for example, the popular Remington Compared to a Hot-Cor Look to the 285-grain Speer Grand Slam. I used to use the Mag-Tip in my 300 Savage until it was dropped a few years ago. Vernon Speer is really one of the unsung heroes of our current handloading nirvana, for sure. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I quit using Nosler partitions years ago as the tips would get bent in the magazine of my 338 Win Mag just from the recoil of the rifle. 100g HORNADY INTERLOCK V 100g SPEER GRAND SLAM (243) Thread starter mick b; Start date Jul 24, 2010; mick b Well-Known Member. The Speer Boat Tail bullet is preferred over flat base bullets at very long range, because of its higher BC. Just after World War II ended, he and Joyce Hornady were transforming spent .22 LR cases into bullet jackets. In the early 90s I shot all my animals with Grand Slams because they were a Premium bullet compared to everything else that we could afford. In the post-World War II boom, three partners gathered in a Quonset hut and developed a bullet that would set the shooting world on its ear. looking at the expansion pics in the 02 catalog (obviously two very different bullets the NAGS & AGS) I'm wondering if I did not think of the AGS when I thought of GS and rated the new ones erroniously. These bullets are too long to shoot well in my Schultz&Larsen 7mm S&H 1-12" twist barrel. I was gonna say that MD, is that a "local" problem or part of the ATK master plan ?? However, they do make a variety of other types of bullets, so it is possible that they offer a bonded option as well. The 4th one strings out about an inch, but I hope I never need that one! Having written several articles about hunting bullets in the All for $70 shipped. The Speer Grand Slam is one that interests me. I've been very successful with Accubonds, but these 145 gr Hot-Cors are giving me groups of 5 at <1" and there is just something cool about using them versus the ever popular (for good reason) Accubond. As such, it is more expensive than the other Speer bullets. My 280 was so so with 150-160 gr bullets. This is simply common sense. If your quarry is deer, the Hot-Cor should be every bit as good. Were undeniably living in the golden age of projectile design, with more choices available to us than weve ever had. The NP is my go to hunting bullet aswell. Just run your ballistics with it, and know your effective range. The Partition used to be my go to hunting bullet for several years until I ran out of the batches that I had on hand. The first animal I ever put down with a Speer Grand Slam was a mule deer that I shot straight through the lungs with a 150 gr. bullets, started making bullets during World War II using spent .22 rimfire While it might not have eye-popping B.C. SAAMI length. 270win 130gr bullet and h4831 go together like ice cream and apple pie. At the shot, this buck ran in a circle and fell over. This category includes such creatures as North American bison, water buffalo, Cape buffalo, hippo, rhino and elephant. lead tip and performs as such, making it a good general purpose bullet. I thought wed start with this one, because I mentioned it in the above story, and its been putting meat in the freezer for more than 40 years. FILTERS $ $ .243 / 6mm Caliber Bullets at LG Outdoors.243 / 6mm Caliber Reloading Bullets .243 / 6mm Caliber Bullets can be used to reload .243 Winchester, 6mm Remington, .243 WSSM, .240 Weatherby Magnum, 6mm PPC, .244 H&H magnum and other cartridges . The biggest game I'm planning on shooting is Kansas whitetails, but it sounds like I need to do a bit more testing. The same bullets recommended for varmints are also recommended I took my first few deer with the contents of the green-and-yellow box of 170-grain Core-Lokt .30-30 Winchester ammo, so it has a special place in my hunting memories. . after the bullet impacts a game animal, which translates to potentially better Many shooters use the Grand Slam for long-range shooting and for hunting. Actually, I kind of forgot this bullet, a 145 7mm from a 7-08: SPEER Grand Slam Premium Big Game Rifle Bullets. Furthermore, the A-Frame bullet is designed with a high concentration of controlled expansion, an excellent weight retention rate, and excellent penetration, making it the hunting bullet of choice for hunters all over the world. $108.49. Now it has one. The Uni-Cor method eliminates core-jacket separation by bonding the jacket directly to the core at a time, resulting in superior accuracy and durability. . The partition is one of the best dual core bullets ever designed. Then, when I started hand-loading, spent many years switching back and forth b/t the Speer Hot-Cor and Nosler Partition. In terms of terminal performance, Deep Curl offers more jacket/core separation after impact, ensuring high weight retention. So whether you're looking to learn more about the sport or just stay up-to-date on the latest news, we've got you covered. expand rapidly and destroy a lot of heart/lung tissue usually deliver the Get 3100fps and your damn near unbeatable are reasonable ranges. Just after World War II . I plan on using the AB for most of my hunting this fall. an interesting assessment! SPEER Grand Slam Premium Big Game Rifle Bullets, Apostolic Exhortation On The Family, Pope John Paul II. 156. FLAT SHIPPING! Both are versatile, all-around bullets suitable for mixed bag hunts. calibers and weights, for mixed bag CXP2/CXP3 hunts and when hunting large for For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. It is excellent for use at long range on CXP2 game and on the lighter species GS in .358 for my .35 Whelen. There are internal heel folds near the base to mechanically lock the That was over 30 years ago so whatever their production is now is likely to have significantly different results. "Actually" the Mag Tip is a better bullet than the Grand Slam. Hornaday InterLock starting at $30 Optics Planet. was the GS made differently in the smaller calibers. Joyce W. Hornady introduced his first bullet in 1949 (after making bullet jackets with Vernon Speer), and that 150-grain, .308-inch-caliber spire-point developed his reputation. Grand Slam bullets are MagTip's for my .416 Rigby but haven't used it on game yet. New ones are just to hard and don't kill as well also no matter what I tried they won't shoot better than 2 Moa. price and performance. Similarly, the versatile Nosler Partition bullet is a perfectly reasonable choice for Class 2 deer in .257 Roberts, for Class 3 elk in 7mm Magnum and for Class 4 bison in .416 Rigby. There are bullet fads, just like there are fads in clothing or automobile design. It wasn't long after that I heard they were changing them. Partition, Hornady SP-RP InterLock and Remington Core-Lokt Ultra Bonded are all considered good choices. there is no question that the aframe is just a better bullet. The Hot-Cor is basically a soft point bullet with an exposed So many better bullets out there now though and now I dont really factor cost of a box of bullets into my decision. In fact, Nosler was responsible for starting the premium bullet industry. The win was 270 with 150/140 gr. For over a month now I have been trying to develop a 140gr Accubond load for my .270 with no luck. at the same impact velocity, the Boat Tail will provide more expansion, which Mostly because I have a slew of 285 grain GS in .375 and it seems like everyone has their own opinion of how they perform with all manner of caveats. Grand Slam was designed to compete with the other deep penetration premium Yeah, I read Speer's justification for the change. I agree with some of the above posts that the a frame is a superior bullet in general. Grand Slam out of a 270 from about 50 yds. On the hog, the bullet was found in the far hide. 9 Feb 2019: 145 Gr Speer Grand Slam from a 284 Win, frontal shot, downward angle on smallish whitetail buck. just sticking to nosler partitions for smaller game and barnesx for bigger at those speeds. I had good luck with the old Grand Slams, before they were cheapened, I mean, redesigned. : ). The 168-grain, .308-inch-diameter, boat-tail, hollow-point MatchKing, especially when loaded in the .308 Winchester, remains a major player. Haven't they also D/C'd the larger calibers ? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I have switched to newer bullets(Accubonds) (Speer Deep Curls) etc. 175 - 180 Grain. of game, such as pronghorn antelope or Coues deer, at any range. For the 90 to 170 LB north east NC deer I was shooting with them they were a bit too tough of a bullet for my liking. A 130 grain bullet out of a 270 Win is certainly mule deer capable and will suffice for elk provided you dont try and break through the shoulder. I am a bit disappointed that the lead in the front half does not stay with the bullet. The It is true that Speer produces bonded bullets for rifles. plated jacket, resulting in what Speer describes as an electro-chemical bond. Now I use them and A frames exclusively in hunting loads from 95 gr 243's to 286gr 9.3 x 62's. 190 Grain. Including breaking shoulders on a 220 lb 8 pt. bullets are already offered in .35 Whelen and .45-70 factory loads.) For deer ive had stellar results with the sierra gameking and nosler ballistic tip. grand slams, but I tried the 175 gr in my 7mm Rem Mag. But these were 285-grain bullets at moderate velocity. I recently bought some boxes of the Grand Slams off Midway, mostly due to price. I could probably spend the rest of my days using a Nosler Partition as my go-to bullet (except where a solid is called for) without much concern. In addition, the Remington Core-Lokts price point is certainly attractive, and thats been a great selling point over the years. and the lubrication used to insert the core in the jacket. the "old and new" GS differences in mfg would be interesting to note. But, in 1975, the company that still bears his name released what I consider to be the finest design of Speers lineup: the Speer Grand Slam. are they currently being marketed as a premium bullet? Nosler Partition starting at $35 Sportsman's Warehouse. Pro-Hunter and Speer Hot-Cor are classic soft point bullets. values, it gives a useable trajectory and retains plenty of energy out to sane distances. This uses a pre-formed lead core and a GS bullets are capable of shooting at temperatures ranging from 275 to 300 F, and have a velocity range of 2200 fps. The polar and Alaskan brown bears are the world's largest predators. Will be interesting to see if Vista and the other companies will worry about doing any promos this year. The Nosler Partition is a fantastic bullet; and, although it's virtually unchanged from the original 1948 design, it still gives high weight retention, wide expansion and deep penetration from nearly any angle, just as John desired. Back then I used a .375 H&H Mag using 285 gr Grand Slams because Nosler for some reason stopped making their Partitions in .375 at that time. I didn't think they would give taht kind of performance. "Montana seems to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans" John Steinbeck. the grand slam is a whale of a bullet - it performs way over its paygrade. I'm good on the 120gr .257 Hot-Cor because when i found out they were going to drop it i bought enough to last me a lifetime because it's no doubt my favorite deer bullet from the 25.06. Partition is the original American premium bullet and it remains a favorite of The result is less expansion, higher retained weight and deeper Have also made a Texas heart shot at 600+ yards on big buck that was wounded by another, rifle was a 280 Rem 160 Gr and the bullet opened as it should. bullets due to military demand. The reason I ask is I got four boxes of the 250 gr. The original design used two lead cores of differing hardness in order to mitigate overly rapid expansion. Speer Grand Slam starting at $20 Optics Planet. Those projectiles were breaking up on impact and were failing to penetrate into the vital organs. Interesting reading. The bullet features a copper jacket that is bonded to the lead core and a hollow point design that provides for maximum expansion. You are far better of with that because you can put additional 20-30 shots into paper targets. for a wide variety of game animals. was the GS made differently in the smaller calibers. The 250g 338 I used to use was great (and accurate) with the old style. Varmints are small pests and include such species as gophers, calibers and bullet weights, it is suitable for all CXP2 and CXP3 game. With its tapered, precision-drawn jacket and long nose, the rifle is designed to penetrate deeply and precisely, making it ideal for hunting anywhere in the world, regardless of the weather conditions. The grand slam bullet is expensive for the technology. Really like the way they hold together and mushroom. Mine looks like 4.4 on my non digital calipers. is priced about like conventional soft point bullets, including Hot-Cor, yet I don't know about the 145 gr. are they currently being marketed as a premium bullet? fwiw.I used the current 375 GS on a recent plains game hunt in RSA. The A frame is a partition bullet. I personally do not like deformed lead tips, whether it be from the effect of the recoil or just packing them in your pocket. They also penetrated deaper and retained more weight than the regular HC in my wet newspaper test. pre-formed lead core used by most bullet makers. Between my brothers and Dad our 25-06's have killed over 200 big game animals. penetration than more conventional bullets like Hot-Cor. Where a Grand Slam might make a difference would be if you are using a caliber and bullet weight that is marginal for the game being hunted. Wed spent the majority of the afternoon chasing the herds of red stag around the Blair Atholl Estate, for which Hepburn was a game stalker, and wed set up a perfect ambush. Caliber and bullet weight figures into the design of all hunting bullets. iffy on raking shots at Class 3 animals. It looks like I'm fresh out fo the AGS and the regular GS I have (285gr) are in the solid yellow box so must be pretty old. The few recovered bullets retained thier weight and expanded well. h4831-sc was much better than 4350 in her tikka. from about 50-300 pounds live weight. not listed below. Nosler: Ballistic Tip-Varmint, BT Lead Free, Varmageddon, Speer: TNT, Varmint Hollow Point and Varmint Soft Point, Winchester: Ballistic Silvertip-Varmint, Hollow Point and Pointed Soft Point, Winchester: Deer Season XP, Soft Point, Ballistic Silvertip, Power Point and Power Max Bonded, Hornady: FTX, InterLock, Monoflex and InterBond, Nosler: AccuBond, AccuBond LR and Partition, Remington: Core-Lokt and Core-Lokt Ultra Bonded, Winchester: AccuBond CT, Power Core, PowerMax Bonded and Power Point, Federal: Trophy Bonded Tip and Trophy Bonded Bear Claw, Hornady: Interlock, Monoflex, SP-RP InterLock, InterBond and GMX, Nosler: AccuBond, AccuBond LR, E-Tip and Partition, Federal: Trophy Bonded Bear Claw and Trophy Bonded Sledgehammer Solid, Swift: A-Frame Heavy Rifle and Break-Away Solids. Impact velocity is typically lower at long Many of the bullets listed for Class 3 game would also be good choices for hunting large, potentially dangerous predators, such as leopard, jaguar, THey're cheap and great for plinking and practice! kills on small animals. The fifth edition of the Nosler Reloading Guide shows that 59.0 grains of IMR 4350 powder will drive one of their 130 grain bullets to a MV of 3051 fps, and 63.0 grains of the same powder will give a 130 grain bullet a MV of 3294 fps. 837. expansion than Speer's premium Grand Slam, with consequently less penetration. So it looks like Midway just isn't going to stock. From coyotes to crows they were accurate and nothing moved after. It is known for its accuracy and its ability to penetrate deeply into targets. Performance on game has always been good, but there are so many other good choices these days, that I haven't used a Partition in several years. I've been reading at the twenty-four hour campfire a lot of guys using them with high degree of success. ", Now that I'm home I got a chance to dig aroud in my reloading cabinets. I suppose I'll just have to buckle down and shoot some pork this summer. ------------------Victory through superior firepower! case!) I much prefered the Grand Slams to Partitions, until the bean counters at Speer wrecked them -- Speer is basically calling a totally different bullet the "Grand Slam" and defrauding the shooting public. . For example, the 150 grain Hot-Cor is a good choice for deer hunting with a .308 Winchester rifle and it is hard to see how the same caliber and weight bullet from the Deep Curl or Grand Slam lines would make any difference in killing power. I then measured the Overall Length, and things cleared up a little. Oct 20, 2010. no game yet. see mule deer's post above re: testing. RUGER: I just would not even bother to make a switch; I've lost count of the deer and elk I've shot or seen shot with Partitions, and switching to the Grand Slam would be, in my humble opinion, of no advantage whatsoever. out back in 1979. same point of impact. My 7-08 R25 actaully shoots the 150-160 gr bullets better with 4831 than the 4350. The velocity and sd are what kill with the 270. Their web site does not list the African Grand Slams, which IIRC were made with a tungsten core. Once you determine the Grand Slam was designed to compete with the other deep penetration premium bullets of the time, such as the Nosler Partition. The result is a strong and accurate hunting bullet that offers a blend of desirable expansion, as well as the deep penetration that ends in a quick kill. I just haven't bumped into or tracked one down yet. Copyright 2010, 2017 by Chuck Hawks. experienced hunters around the world. Ill be loading A Frames in my 8mm magnum. . Dead set as I was to shoot this bullet I finally changed things up and tried loading some old 130gr Speer Grand Slams which I had inherited and the first load I tried shoots .75 groups. You are far better of with conventional soft points - Sierra SP Flat Base (Pro Hunter) 165 gr. Always 120 grain bullets. One of Vernon Speer's last accomplishments was the Hot-Cor Despite their low muzzle velocity of 2782 fps, the bullets appear to have good penetration and excellent expansion, making them ideal for shooting at muzzle speeds of up to 8000 fps. Editor's Note: This article originally appeared in the July 2020 issue of Gun Digest the Magazine. Crappie Killer: If the partitions are not shooting for your, check the "runout" of your handloads.I'll bet that is the issue. I do know I got my Arkansas elk permit in 2001. The Speer Boat Tail bullet is Speer's long range offering. This rifle has a range of 22 fps and a muzzle velocity of 2820 fps. quickest kills on deer size game, particularly at longer ranges. Haven't they also D/C'd the larger calibers ? It is manufactured in the conventional manner, using a drawn gilding metal The Sierra GameKing and ProHunter boattail and flat base, respectivelyhave a good, thick jacket, and give good expansion and penetration. In response to the criticism, Speer has announced that it will be discontinuing the production of the grand slam bullet. Penetration must be sufficient for the bullet to get into Funny, a change was what -well not altogether- caused me to stop using Barnes. Speer offers four lines of big game hunting bullets in a variety of styles and weights for almost all calibers, and they are priced right. (Raking shots are best avoided in any Surely one of you guys has Rifle and Handloader back issues all categorically bindered and crossreferenced for easy access. range, thus the Boat Tail is made with a thinner jacket than a Hot-Cor bullet Speer introduced the Grand Slam in 1975 as their premium values. medicine and will out perform more expensive premium bullets. GS is a bullet capable of shooting at a speed of 2740 fps when fired from a 24-inch Win. tail bullets of conventional construction (not bonded core) in the marketplace. Speer Grand Slam. My dad still has a 1970s-vintage box of .30-caliber, 180-grain MatchKings, with maybe 40 left, that hed reach for when a hunting rifle showed accuracy problems. Got a good deal so basically shot them of for the Brass. I used the old style Grand Slams back in the early 90's.They were great bullets.I've also shot 120gr Speer Hot Cores and 117gr Sierra bullets.I never shot any Nosler's back then,but they now have 110gr Accubonds,115gr Ballistic Tips and also Partitions.I don't have any 25cals anymore,but I'd give Noslers a hard look.I don't think you will find . was the GS made differently in the smaller calibers? for the small predators, especially coyotes, which prey on them. Performance was spectacular, he shot nine animals, with 8 one shot kills. In researching the speer grand slam vs the nosler partition it seemed that the GS was a bit tougher than the nosler. Both work really well in my experiencelike the protected point on the GS!! I have a box or 2 that I haven't started working with so if they are discontinued I'd be willing to give up. New Member, I have enjoyed all the posts from the site and hope to learn more about hunting in Africa. This requires testing the likely candidates at the rifle range from a bench 165 - 168 Grain. Last year he got a bull moose one shot and it was done. The Grand Slam was once a very complicated bullet with dual cores, but it now uses a single core of lead alloy inserted using Speer's Hot-Cor injection technology. The Swift A-Frame, Nosler I have used partitions for years, love the way they hang together for extra penetration. The bullets listed in the Class 2 category can be deadly if I much prefered the Grand Slams to Partitions, until the bean counters at Speer wrecked them -- Speer is basically calling a totally different bullet the "Grand Slam" and defrauding the shooting public. that are not prone to ricochet and are safe for use in semi-populated areas, The company is now owned by industry giant ATK, but still operates out of Caliber Learn how your comment data is processed. Shooting dry news print is a pretty hard test IME. Back then I was buying powder by the pound can, primers by the 100 box and bullets a box at a time. With the old stag, which had been rolling in the peat while tending his hinds, facing head on at 245 yards, I leaned the forend of the graceful Rigby Highland Stalker on Hepburns pack, let my breath halfway out, gave the stag 6 inches of elevation and squeezed the trigger. After your rifle/scope However, its refined enough to give the accuracy and terminal performance that hunters desire. selection runs from .243-.338" at this writing and will probably expand. Nosler decided to build a bullet that couldnt failand he did so. The beauty is its simplicity, and I like the fact that Remington still offers a bunch of round-nosed choices for those of us who spend most of our time inside 150 yards or so. You might try buying them directly from Speer. Want a great practice/plains game bullet for your .375 H&H or .375 Ruger? Their web site does not list the African Grand Slams, which IIRC were made with a tungsten core. I have tried to load partitions in several calibers and find accuracy below 1.5" is a struggle. Hot-Cor It seems like speer has been reducing their lines without coming out with anything new for awhile. This is kind of disappointing as I just worked up loads in my .257 Roberts Ackley Improved using it last fall. Its suitable for nearly all game animals that are hunted with soft-point (expanding) bullets, including feral hogs, pronghorn, elk, moose, bear and even Cape buffalo. All I use are the NP's out of my 30-06, 7-08 and 25-06. You don't need my opinion to know they are good bullets. factory loaded ammunition, as well as to reloaders by their manufacturer. Premium bullets are the major brand controlled expansion designs without bonded cores, such as the Barnes X, Speer Grand Slam, Nosler Partition and Winchester Fail-Safe; . 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