Jack Lott, a veteran African hunter, had experienced those issues I outlined regarding the .458 Winchester MagnumIve heard the story of how he was nearly killedand decided to fix the issue. got off to a rough start in life. Nonetheless, many visiting sportsmen and Professional Hunters use the .458 Winchester with good effect. When a client shows up with a double rifle, you know you have an elitist for a customer, much like the guy coming down the charter boat dock at the marina carrying a fly rod, and you approach him with caution. Of course, no cartridge-rifle combo (based on our set of criteria) can achieve a perfect score. Rifles chambered in .505 Gibbs and .500 Jeffery include a mercury recoil reducer installed in the stock. Now offered at an even lower price! Both of these were chambered in .375 H&H, .416 Rigby, .458 Win and .458 Lott. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction; that is one of the physical laws of our universe. The issue posed by the rebated rim was the tendency for the bolt face to ride over the rim and onto the case body, causing a feeding malfunction. Compatible with HK MP5 models and variants, Zenith/MKE Z5-series models, as well as Dakota Tactical, POF, and Omega models chambered in 9mm. You are using an out of date browser. That said, you cant go wrong with either. The reasons have been amply supplied in previous blogs. to be called the Forty-Five-Moor Matches. over enough, then enjoy the small company of those who will rarely grant the happy opportunity for another to boast because they need all the attention they can buy in a super sport car or .500 Jeffery! Simply put: The 410-grain bullet of nominal diameter at 2,370 fps (modern loads use a 400-grain bullet at 2,350 or 2,400 fps) offered more than 5,000 ft-lb of muzzle energyand virtually unequaled penetrationdue to the high sectional density. One of the most popular match calibers, the 6,5mm bullet has excellent aerodynamic properties and good sectional density which give it good ballistic potential. 1964: Jim Sullivan, formally of Armalite, joins Ruger for the purpose of developing a new bolt action big game rifle to compete with the Winchester Model 70 and Remington Model 700. In the beginning it was plagued with some manufacturing gremlins that resulted in some cases shipping from the factory with too little powder. However, having spent a considerable amount of time with both cartridgesin a few different riflesI will admit that the Rigby recoils harder than does the Jeffery. Get 12 Issues a year of the country's best firearms writing. Mag..458 . And, Ive found theres a definite ramp-up in recoil when you go to the 500-grain, .45-caliber cartridges, which run at 2,150 fps and upward. An obscure offering from Holland & Holland, this .40-caliber is usually revered by its users. Modern bullets have made this .40-caliber even better. / .38-72 / .405 Win / .375 Ruger / .400 Nitro Exp./ .404 Jeffery. 1 single-shot rifle for it. The classic cartridgesthose that made their reputations before World War II during the golden age of the safariall used a bullet with a sectional density greater than 0.300. The "Safari Classics" were built in the CZ custom shop here in the States with upgraded Classic style stocks with cheekpiece and they used McGowen barrels. The 375 and 416 Ruger outperform their H&H based counterparts, and do so in standard action sizes, which makes them much more useful/wieldable for the average big/dangerous game hunter. As a handloader, I like the premium 400-grain bulletslike the Woodleigh Hydrostatically Stabilized solidsat around 2,275 fps. Its recoil, while higher than that of the .375 H&H, is manageable in a well-fitting rifle. Starting with the elder of the two, the .404 Jeffery came onto the scene in either 1906 or 1907 (this date has been the topic of debate, but my friend Phil Shoemaker has a certified 1907 .404 Jeffery rifle), and was designed to be a rimless variant of the .450/400 Nitro Express, also known as the .400 Jeffery. Rifle Recoil Table. I like fast cars and big guns But how fast and big is enough to not only satisfy but give pleasure in using them is the question that can only be answered by the individual concerned. Given the option I'd take the .404 over the .458, any day. Here are some performance figures for modern .458 Win Mag factory ammunition. Apr 11, 2012. And, in comparison to the .375s and 9.3mms, the bullet weight (along with correlative energy) of these lower .40s makes a definite difference when it comes to penetration. But it does get an ill-proportioned amount of chatter on at least one forum. Maybe even more important the moderate velocity makes the . Initial loadings were mild, duplicating .450/.400 ballistics in a bolt-action. With a slight shoulder of 8-30, the Jeffery case feeds like it was greased, and was an undeniable blend of striking power and low recoil. Stopping power with its usually intended meaning is a myth. Mag. BP or smokeless, it's all good. So, my reckoning is largely rooted in a love for the .45-70 to begin with, and then wanting one in a bolt action! Taylor KO, .404 Jeffery 400gr 2500 fps .321 5550 60.4, 450gr 2300 fps .359 5285 62.5, .458 Win Mag 500gr 2260 fps .341 5670 74, 550gr 2150 fps .375 5645 77.4, 600gr 2050 fps .409 5598 80.5. Secondly, most of the factory loads are using a 500-grain pill and are struggling to get the velocity without generating really high pressures. 6.5 mm Caliber. Those are, for the uninformed, .510 bullets (soft or solid) of 570grs at approximately 2350 fps! The granddaddy of bolt-action big-game calibers is the .458 Win. Eight major concealed carry insurance programs are now available to the millions of Americans who carry concealed. I prefer the 404J. 375 Wby Mag; 375 Win; 376 Steyr; 378 Wby Mag; 38-55 WCF; 40-60 Win; 40-65 Win; 404 Jeffery; 405 Win; 408 CheyTac; 416 Barrett; 416 Rem Mag; 416 Rigby; 416 Ruger; 416 Taylor; 416 Wby Mag; 44-40 WCF; 444 Marlin; 45-60 Win; 45-70 Gov; 45-75 Win; 45-90; 450 Bushmaster; 450 Marlin; 450 Nitro Express; 450 Rigby; 450-400 Nitro Express; 457 WW Mag; 458 . To date, we've had a short overview of the following big-bore cartridges, and the machinery that fires them, in comparison to my favorite Big Bore, the .458 Winchester Magnum: .404 Jeffery; .416 Rigby; .500 NE; .458 Lott; .416 Weatherby Magnum; .505 Gibbs; .460 Weatherby Magnum and, last week, the .470 NE. The game rangers of Tanzania, Kenya, and North and South Rhodesia were issued .404 Jeffery bolt-action rifles for game control work. Bearing marked similarities to the earlier .350 Rigby Magnumthey share the same 45-degree shoulderthe .416 Rigby used a unique bore diameter and a case large enough to prevent extraction problems in the heat of Africa and India. .577 Nitro Express compared to a .22 CB. Mag..375 Dakota.375 Ack. Same ranges and targets as used in 1874. The .404 Jeffery is a rifle cartridge designed for hunting large, dangerous game animals, such as the "Big Five" (elephant, rhino, cape buffalo, lion and leopard) of Africa. . The .505 Gibbs is a specialty cartridge that is designed for the heavyweights; it really doesnt make a whole lot of sense to use it on lighter game, as there are much better tools for that job. Modern bullets have made this .40-caliber even better. The .404 Jeffery, an African workhorse that makes a great choice for dangerous game The .458s Now, we're getting into the realm of the true stopping rifles. From there, you've got the various powerful .416s, which use .416-inch bullets as their designation suggests. "Mit Scharnier" MTM RLLD-50er Patronenbox fr .300/.458 Win Mag/.444 Marlin u.v.m grn 8,50 . I used a .416 rifle in India and later bought a .458 Winchester magnum Ruger No1. The 404 uses more powder, which I guess is due to larger case capacity, and since velocities are similar, I suppose the 404 runs at lower pressure. Thats 5550 ft-lbs! My wife shoots one, in a Legendary Arms Works Big Five rifle, and she shoots it very well. Being designed to basically duplicate the 1890s .450/400 N.E. Mag. .30-06 Springfield vs. .270 Winchester6.5 Creedmoor vs. 7mm-08 Remington8x57 Mauser vs. .318 Westley Richards.358 Winchester vs. .350 Remington Magnum.22-250 Remington vs. .220 Swift.270 Winchester vs. .270 WSM.26 Nosler vs. 6.5-300 Weatherby Magnum.458 Win. Muz. of muzzle energy. Theres no word on pressure but I suspect its right up there with any modern rifle cartridge designed for Africas grumpiest! This combination has accounted for elephant, buffalo and all sorts of plains game animals at ranges from 16 to 225 yards. Of the cartridges listed, each has their merits. If you are one of the few owners and shooters of the Jeffery, I wish you nothing but success and happiness. Stopping power is no myth when deep penetration and immediate CNS kills are needed; in those instances when tables turn and prey becomes predator and hemorrhaging and blood loss are not enough. While its rather obvious that the .505 isnt a long-range rifle, it has what it takes when the distances are measured in feet, not in yards. Mag..375 H&H.375 Whelan Imp..378 Weatherby.375-.404 Express.404 Jeffery.405 Winchester.416-.284.416 Taylor.416 Rem. Ballistics expert Keith Luckhurst ran some trajectory tests comparing a .404 Jeffery loaded with 400-grain bullets at 2280 fps, a .458 Winchester Magnum loaded with 500-grain bullets at 2090 fps, and a .375 H&H leaded with 300-grain bullets at 2550 fps, all sighted in at 100 meters. Learn how your comment data is processed. The big Gibbs case will need 130 to 145 grains of powder to push those huge bullets, and it pushes the big 570- and 600-grain slugs to 2,100 fps, for just under 5,900 ft.-lbs. Its as simple as that! Like everyone, WDM Bell was a product of his times and to hunt the dangerous big game of Africa with such light caliber rifles would be illegal today. Its lighter chamberings make it easy for recoil-shy shooters to field and makes it ideal for target work, too. Email When Available 458 WIN MAG: 500 [+] Close . The .458 Win. Mag. I have used both on a fair number of water buffalo and cannot see any difference. Mag..416 Rigby.416 Wby. Lots of classic rounds but something is missing. Just dont go on the forums boasting on its superiority over the .458 Win Mag, cause it just aint so! The huge case was designed to give positive extraction to matter how hot the temperatures got (cordite, the common propellant in 1911, was extremely temperature sensitive), and the 400-grain soft points and solids, pushed at 2,400 fps, made for a great combination, and it still does today. Barnes shows (from a 26 barrel) about 2500 fps from their Banded. . Do yourself a favor get hold of a .423 bullet and a .458 bullet hold them in your hands ..you will really see a big difference between these two bullets..the .458" is really a lot bigger than the .423" no comparison at allthe 404 Jeffery is made for a 400 gn bullet at 2150 f/s it is deadly as isbut if you are not sure of your competency with such a load/rifle,,you can go heavier I suppose? 404 JEFFERY: 400 [+] Close . M77 Timeline. The premium 300-grainers and the Woodleigh 350-grain bullets in the Norma African PH line of ammo will get the job done. But that sounds like a good enough educated guess. .458 Win Mag rounds (introduced in the 1950s and based off the .375 H&H) compared to a cigarette. 400 grain: 2250 fps/4496 ft-lbs, SD .272 (Federal TBBC) 500 grain: 2090 fps/4849 ft-lbs, SD .341 (Federal TBBC) (L-R): .458 Win Mag, .458 Lott, .460 Weatherby Gnanapragasam Creative Commons .470 Nitro Express Yes, the .45s have more weight and a greater frontal diameter, but the energy figures between the lower .40s and the .45s arent radically different: They both have roughly 1,000 more ft-lb at the muzzle than do the .375s. The 404 Jeffery sired the majority of Nosler's cartridge line, namely the 30 Nosler, 26 Nosler, and 33 Nosler as well as other cartridges like the 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum (7mm RUM). You really cant ask for any more than that from a dangerous game cartridge. So we ARE comparing two brands of apples here sort of. 4.16 Dakota.444 Marlin. My own favorite handloads drive the 400-grain bullets at 2280 fps, mainly because thats where I found the best accuracy; my Heym Express .404 Jeffery will put three shots into 0.75-inch at 100 yards. That 500gr load IS actual from my CZ at SAAMI COL. Mag. There are good, modern loads available from Hornady, using the DGX and DGS bullets, and plenty of good brass for the handloader. So I'm wondering if these cartridges would give similar results- at least on animals with hides of lesser thickness. Some are more than a century old; some came about in my lifetime. How do I know its .1%? Mag. The .458 Winchester Magnum Remember I told you that supplies of ammunition for the British cartridges dried up in the 50s? It remains a popular choice to this day, with factory ammunition readily available, and many great double rifles being produced annually in this caliber. However, the .40s arent exactly married to the 400-grain bulletalthough its the most popular. Chambered in the Ruger Hawkeye African rifle, the .416 Ruger is affordable, effective and, for reasons I cant quite explain, remains an unpopular choice. There are many good bullets in the 230- to 270-grain range that will make for a flat-shooting load. Any .45-Bore, 10-pound rifle with 3-pound trigger. Dead heat here. The .425 Westley Richards came onto the scene in 1909, using a .435-inch-diameter, 410-grain bullet at 2,350 fps for slightly more than 5,000 ft-lb of muzzle energy. This puts it in the same league as the .416 Rigby, Remington and Ruger. Jeffery had great success with their .450/400 Nitro Express cartridges, and needed a cartridge of similar performance that would work well in a bolt-action rifle. Kenyan professional hunter Harry Selby procured a Rigby rifle in .416 Rigby when his .470 double was accidentally run over, and Robert Ruarks Horn of the Hunter made both the man and cartridge famous. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. It remains the most popular Weatherby cartridge and the flagship of the line. Though the number of rifles produced prior to World War II was actually quite lowa whopping total of 169 riflesit was the writing of experienced African hunters like John Pondoro Taylor who sang its praises; but the 1953 release of Robert Ruarks Horn of the Hunter, in which he idolized his PH Harry Selby and his .416 Rigby, that sealed the cartridges fate. For the professional who makes his living driving fast cars in circles, or 2.5 mile road courses, he can use all that power, and more but for the commuter who is restrained by the speed cops, or urban gridlock, it amounts to no end of frustration and letdown. Their designation uses the smaller land (rather than groove or bullet) diameter. Editor's Note: This article originally appeared in the May 2020 issue of Gun Digest the Magazine. And my rifle cartridges, like myself, have become older & slower!marvquillen@aol.com. Roosevelt used this .40-caliber on lions and other game on his 19091910 safari and obviously lived to tell the tale, but Im of the opinion that there are much better choices. It remains a great choice for a light-recoiling double-rifle cartridge capable of handling all game, including elephant. I wish all such rousing legends were this alive and this well. But that's not to cast doubt with faint praise with today's powders and stronger rifles it is quite capable of impressive performance though nothing extraordinary. I am selling because my situation has changed and won't be range shooting in the foreseeable future due to travel. The Lott also has another really cool feature: Because the .458 Lott is nothing more (and nothing less) than an elongated .458 Winchester case, any .458 Lott rifle can and will shoot factory .458 Winchester Magnum ammunition without issue. Whether setting sights on a distant trophy or ringing steel out to 4000 yards, the Vortex Razor HD 4000 GB ballistic laser rangefinder delivers all the range, ballistic, and environmental data needed for confident accuracy. While its paper ballistics indicate that the .375 H&H 300-grain load has more energy (4,263 ft-lb. I would stick with a PH who shows better judgement. Too many now worship at the altar of high velocity. Federal and Ruger helped make the cartridge and rifle available, when both announced that ammunition from Federal would feed the new Ruger Safari Magnum, chambered in .416 Rigby in 1989. 44 Magnum 45-70 45-90 45 Long Colt 45-.120 Basic.450 Marlin.450 Nitro.450 Nitro 3 1/4.458 Win. . As a handloader, I can use the Lott in a couple of ways. ago. A 300-grain load at 2600 fps was also offered, but was not very effective against dangerous game. So, the somewhat demeaned (by the armchair Xsperts) .458 Win Mag can more than hold its own against the old-timer .404 Jeffery. Recoil for both the 9.3x62 and .404 Jeffery are noticeably less than the .458 Win. The example was made in terms of different bullet weights and comparing the 458WM to the 404 Jeff. The 410-grain .425 Westley Richards bulletthe largesthas an SD of .310. Measuring the diameters of expansion maybe able to provide more insight to this discussion? A 500 grain .458 bullet at 2,040 feet per second is still an extremely potent load and is quite effective on the whole range of thick skinned dangerous game in Africa. It looked good on paper, but there were immediate problems. Im not saying the old reliables have to go, but if youre going to say what is best today, then you need to consider what is in production today, and the Ruger loads have some very desirable advantages. [3] While it doesnt feed very well in a bolt-action rifle, there are many double rifles available in this chambering, and Ruger chambers its fantastic No. 1's are well known for their phenomenal accuracy and essentially fail-proof design. 1 single-shot, with ammunition produced by Hornady. 2 Jeffery, the .500/465 NE, and the .476 NE were othersthe .470 became the industry standard as a Professional Hunters stopping rifle. According to the best evidence available, it was released in 1905, and although the .416 got the glory, the .404 did the work. Maybe thats giving too much credit I dunno. The 404 being .423" would have an edge on sectional density while the .458" would have slightly more frontal area. But perhaps thats not quite fair to the one in 500 who think that just maybe, perhaps, possibly some day they might want to try one on for size. Im going to Alaska in Sept. for bear, and am taking both my .416 Ruger (scoped) and my G&H custom BA in .35 Whelen.. Save my name and email to use for future comments. of energy. Like the .300 H&H, the .300 Winchester is designed to headspace off the belt, but the clever reloader can adjust the cartridge to headspace off the shoulder. Any bullet type, any bullet weight, barrel twist to match bullet as needed. Of the .416s, Id say the Weatherby is the least popular, although as with many of its other cartridges, its fans are fervent. of energy. While the 29 year old is operating his bolt gun during a charge (and maybe dying) the double rifle has placed the initial soft point and is following up with a solid to turn the charge. There are plenty of factory loads, as well as component bullets available for the .416. The .404 Jeffery While the .416 Rigby took the lions share of the popularity, the .404 Jeffery was quietly doing the majority of the dirty work. Winchester engineers opened up the .375 H&H belted case to hold .458-inch diameter bullets, in a straight walled configuration, and cut the case length down to 2.500 inches, so as to fit in a .30-06-length action. <p>New 2nd generation redesigned version. It looked good on paper, but there were immediate problems. 2 will gain ground over the next decade. It reaches 3,250 fps with a 180-grain bullet and a 26-inch barrel. and is also known as .404 Rimless Nitro Express. The load and bullet were revised, and things were set right; however, I feel that there are still flaws in the .458 Winchester. The .404 was born in London by the Jeffery firm in about 1910. Using a .410-inch bullet, the classic .450-400 3-inch load consisted of a 400-grain bullet at 2,050 fps for 3,732 ft-lb of energy. Nah! The casebeing cut downdidn't have the capacity to get those big bullets moving at the advertised speed. Check out this story from contributor Mike Roux, for an excellent and educational anecdote highlighting the importance of a full quiver of calls. However, the .416 Taylor (developed in the 1970s by Bob Chatfield-Taylor) will come close to the Rigby benchmark, driving a 400-grain bullet to 2,350 fps. I used this excellent cartridge for a handsome Cape buffalo in Mozambique. And since the .404 Jeff is a longer bottle-neck case, it burns a larger dose of slower burning power to achieve about 76% of the ballistics of my .458 Win Mag! Midway USA This one is a sleeper. The .270 WSM betters the velocity of the .270 Winchester by 200 to 250 fps; that is a considerable increase in speed over an already speedy cartridge. He thought the full-length case of the .375 H&H (2.850 inches versus 2.500 inches for the .458 Winchester) would alleviate the case capacity problem and maybe even give a bit more velocity, and Mr. Lott was absolutely correct. The bolt action features a three-position safety on the lock and a classic stock magazine with a hinged cover. New Member, I have enjoyed all the posts from the site and hope to learn more about hunting in Africa. I dont. Here is a pair of classic African cartridges, both fully capable of taking any and all game on earth, one having been the workhorse of the African game departments and the other has attained unparalleled glory through the writings of an American on his first safari. 6,5 x 55 SE. It is sad that these great cartridges have fallen by the wayside. JavaScript is disabled. >223 caliber in Ruger #3?.. By the way, an asidepushed from the same case, with the same powder charge, a larger diameter bullet of the same weight will always yield more velocity. And all of it from a 26-incher. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. First, and most obvious, I can load it to its full-house specs for an extremely potent dangerous game cartridge. And since the .404 Jeff is a longer bottle-neck case, it burns a larger dose of slower burning power to achieve about 76% of the ballistics of my .458 Win Mag! I was fortunate to secure, at a very reasonable price, a very late .404. Do I have a bias toward the .458 Winchester? The .45 ACP Isnt Going Anywhere, 8 On-Target Concealed Carry Insurance Options (2022), 10 Affordable Double-Barrel Shotgun Options (2023), Best AR-15 Options For Any Budget And Buyers Guide (2023), Best Concealed Carry Handguns For Women (2023). The .450 3-inch Nitro Express This is one of the original success stories, coming at the end of the 19th century, setting the benchmark for the performance of dangerous game cartridges for decades to come. The 0.350-inch difference in length changed the entire game, and the belted Lott case will push a 500-grain bullet to 2,300 fps, for over 5,900 ft.-lbs of energy. Sauer 404 Blaser R93 Blaser R8 Ultimate Beretta BRX1 Alle Produkte anzeigen . My Ford van will do more than I care to push it So will my .458 Win Mag! So also, the 550gr in .458 was an educated guess until I ran the ballisticswhich confirmed it. Or, a traditionally loaded 535gr solid at 2450 fps (7130 ft-lbs). The .458 Lott, a wildcat that nicely improved on .458 Win. Yes, its belt is unnecessary; and yes, the pressure is higher than some shooters like, but in the field, I doubt any animal could ever tell the difference between a Rigby and Remington. Modern steel has resulted in a more potent, modern load: a 400-grain bullet at 2,350 fps, putting todays .404 Jeffery in the same league as the .416s. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Thus, thye standard magnum actions (such as 300, 338, 7mm or even 458) should work. Selbys .470 double rifle had been accidently run over and damaged, and the only suitable rifle he could find in Nairobi was a dirty, rusty-looking .416 Rigby. Though there were so few produced, the reputation of the .416 Rigby inspired writers like Jack OConnor, who also sang its praises. It seems getting hold of the 404 Jeffery `s .423 " expanded soft nose bullet and a .458" expanded soft nose bullet may share some light on this discussion? The original .404 Rimless Nitro Express used a 400-grain .423-inch bullet at 2,150 fps and was not only effective on all gameincluding elephant and rhinobut was also very easy to shoot well. I have a couple of problems with this article. Vel. The toughest 50-round drum magazine for the MP5 on the market! One reason is the history of the cartridge - not rational I know. Using the belted .375 H&H case as a platform, the .416 Remington Mag duplicates the ballistics of the .416 Rigby, but in a smaller diameter case and at a higher pressure. In addition if I remember correctly the NRA had an independent test run on the velocities of the 458 Win in 1956 which verified the original 2150fps ballistics with 510 gr bullets with the original 25 bbl. This modern rimmed case from Krieghoff uses a 3-inch case to push a 400-grain, .416-inch bullet to 2,300 fps and makes a solid choice for a hunter who wants a double-rifle in .40-caliber. vs. .458 Lott7mm Rem. Mag. Get the latest news and reviews from Gundigest.com. This keeps the pressures very low, and the century-plus history of the .450 Nitro should alleviate any concerns about that ballistic formula. However, Ive become enamored of the .404 Jeffery. Thats 92 ft-lbs of equal and opposite reaction from an 11-pound firearm! Whether you are reloading for handgun, rifle, shotshell or muzzleloading we have what you need. An American Professional Hunter named George Hoffman mated the .416-inch bullets of the Rigby with the case of the .375 H&H; the result was the .416 Hoffman, and it was and still is a good cartridge. I am considering a a build for a 404 jeffery and am having a devil of a time getting a definitive answer as to what actions would be ready-candidate for conversion to a 404. Create a free website or blog at WordPress.com. Mine looks like 4.4 on my non digital calipers. Having killed, what, 1000 elephants and countless other game, he had a better handle on what worked and when to take those shots than the blow hard keyboard warrior that kills a deer or two per year. 14 shots fired from new! wiederladen norma web 308 norma mag 308 winchester 338 lapua mag 338 norma mag 338 win mag 35 whelen 358 norma mag 375 blaser mag 375 fl mag n e 375 h h mag 4 5 mm 404 jeffery 416 rem mag 416 rigby 416 taylor 450 rigby 458 lott 458 . I think there is so much overlap with cartridges that perhaps the title should be reworded to 10 of the best instead of the 10 best, at which point there is little argument that any of these fit the bill. Bullet weights range from 325 grains up to 450 grains, with the heavier weights being best for dangerous game work. Ruger added the .416 Ruger in 2009, and that venerable old wildcat, the .416 Taylor, was standardized in 2011. Good article but maybe a little to focused on older classic rounds. 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