For example, my Dodge Caravan can pull 5000 lbs but I should not have more than 150 lbs on the hitch (tongue weight) Any more weight than that and the weight would push the rear of the van down too much making the van hard to steer or even understeer on a corner causing an accident. Unless you have a dependable, local dealer, Id stay away from it. Hi Larry, In this price range neither Ariens IKON XD is the best. Toro is offering a $300 discount on the 2000 series so check to see if you can stack that with the $1000 discount. Thats good to know. The dealer I prefer carries both Toro and Ariens, so that is not a factor. Its the same mower as the IKON XD with the serviceable ZT2800 trannys. Because it has a Smart Speed control that lets you pull carts without damaging your transmissions. It is a pretty smooth lawn, with about 8 trees and a lot of bed lines to cut along in the front half of the lawn. I do like the 42 inch Toro over the 46 inch Cub Cadet. i just need help deciding which mower to go for, i run my own gardening business of three years and its now time to upgrade to a ZT, I do a few commercial jobs which are about 1 acre in size and alot of smaller residencial properties with small gate access around 1/2 acre. Is the Toro 75742 the one youd recommend or something else? I have a little over an acre. Thanks for the quick reply. Toro Titan MAX Vs. Toro Titan MyRide! Check Price. (Home Depot Link) this mower mows well and will handle the ditch. My first choice for you is a Country Clipper Boulevard zero-turn. Look for the Toro Commercial V-Twin engine on select TimeCutter, TimeCutter HD, and TITAN . Bad Boy MZ Magnum, 54 in. Robotic Mowers. Am I right Im thinking that the Toro MX5000 has the Hydro Gear 2800 and the Ariens Ikon X has the smaller Hydro Gear 2200? This gives the operator a superior ride and also provides the best cut quality over other styles of suspension. Feature: MyRIDE Suspension System. Unfortunately, the 50 inch is in high demand this year so you may have to go to a dealer to get it. Do you think I should go down to a 42, or stay with the larger engines and beefier decks that come with the larger mowers? Country Clipper was one of the first brands to make zero-turn mowers for other brands. This suspension even reduces the side-to-side movement and pitch of the operator platform. They both have heavy-duty trannys, thick, fabricated decks, and very strong frames. The obvious pocket-shriveling model between the two Toro mowers is the Titan; they are priced about 5,600$ - 6,500$, while the Timecutter ranges from 3,600$ to 5000$. If you are inexperienced with standons check out this article: Spartan. If you go lap-bar I STRONGLY suggest that you demo it on your yard to see if the mower will hold on your slope. Stay away from the $3000 TRs with 54-inch decks the ZT2500 transmissions will also fail. I have about 1 acre of mowable grass. Think you figured that out. Its the Capital one Savor Card, google it if interested in the promo. Both the Toro and Ariens have great cutting fabricated decks. But: Paul, I need to buy my first ZTR. My current tractor mower is a Husqvarna 46. Will the 42 suffice or should I get 46 or 48. Yes, when you read the lawnmowers forums and talk to dealers Kawasaki does appear more popular. Probably could pull the cart full of rocks easily for a long time. I enjoy mowing regularly (so Im looking forward to the fun of a ZTR). A lawn mower with variable speed is beneficial because you may wish to slow down or speed up based on the area you are mowing, for example going slower when making tight turns around a tree. Im looking at the cub cadet ultima zt2, ariens apex and Toro timecutter all in 60 inch. 5. The 75746 in particular will mow 2-3 miles an hour faster and still give you a perfect cut. So with proper care anything will last a lifetime. Steep slopes and wet grass is nothing but a minor challenge for the Titan. I also have balance challenges and some minor fine motor control issues (mild multiple sclerosis). So many choices! Most ZTRs dont have enough traction to go up that hill. I currently either mulch or side-discharge my clippings and will likely continue to do so. Features. Kawasaki has a lot of name brand recognition with the small owner/operators. Home Depot sometimes runs a 10% off special if the HD Credit card is used. Hi Paul, have you looked at the new Scag residential zero turn yet? If you get the Toro make sure you get a set of the standard mulching blades. The APEX is one of those mowers that it a solid step up from the MZ61. The new model #991145 Gravely Compact Pro 44 Commercial mower is having many problems. Thanks in advance! Thank you so much for the insight. I am purchasing a zero turn mower for my husband as a surprise for his 50th birthday next year. 600 hours later the Honda v-twin 20hp had a $700 hickup and then 6 months later one of the Hydrogears self destructed and apparently Hydrogear no longer makes a replacement so off to the scrap yard. I would be interested in buying one of these used, but dont want to buy a basket full of problems if thats the case with these two. Seems like you get a overall better mower on the Cub than the Toro with the better transmission and extra features like the foot height adjustment, hour meter, headlights, etc. Cost $5500 plus. Hi Ted, If you buy from the Box stores I recommend reading the operators manual before you go mow with it. Charlie Victor. Thank you so much! I have also noticed the Craftsman Pro Series 48 ZTR is on sale for about $3300, putting it in my price range. Without concern about the leaf vac, I was looking at the Cub Cadet ZT2 54-inch or the Toro TimeCutter 54-inch (75754) I judge those to be about the equivalent. Exmark has the Ultracut 3 deck vs the Toro Turboforce . I also bought my snow blower through your recommendation. Yes, I know pretty anal. The deck wont lift up for transport or going over curbs. I have just under an acre to mow with one 18 degree slope that drops off to nearly flat in about a 12 foot run in my backyard. Toro moves at 8.5 mph, and Kubota at 8. The other half is generally flat (this is the back, and the lower portion of the front). Cub Cadet has put a lot of time into designing a deck that cuts just as well and from what Ive seen so far (on YouTube) it cuts very, very well. Seems as though your recommended ZTRs come from Big Box stores, which I prefer to purchase from a dealer. The lap bars are very adjustable to fit your driving style. $7.49 USD. I have two questions. I do have a fence, trees and a few other yard obstacles. So I spent about $450 at local dealership to replace drive belt, tune up, etc. I feel like I cant afford to buy the wrong mower, especially at these prices. I recommend only looking at the Husqvarna AUTOMOWER 430XH or the just introduced Worx Landroid L. These are the only robitic mowers that will mow the grass high enough (3-3.5 inches) so that you dont get soil erosion on that slope. The 52 and larger sizes cut as well as any other brand. Hi K.C., I never recommend buying used unless you are very mechanically inclined, have engine and transmission expertise and get such a good deal that you can fix all the little things that will go wrong. I know you dont recommend buying used but Im looking at a Deere Z930M with 300 hours. The entire weight is on the foot pedal instead. 2. If you use them with side discharge the work most of the time but if your grass is wet, long or the stringy (like some Fescues) they wont cut the grass into little pieces and throw it out the discharge. If it still wiggles the bearings are bad and you need to replace the spindle. Q: Is Kohler EFI engine a reliable engine? So Home Depot or Tractor supply might be a viable alternative. The 50-inch model is over your budget. Paul. What is your preference between the Kohler 7000 and the Kawasaki FR engines? Hi Paul, A 50-52 inch mower has a wider stance so youll feel more comfortable on your slope. My second choice is the Toro Timecutter HD 48 inch at the Home Depot. They are handcrafted well-padded seats with armrests and adjustable positions. To compare apples to apples (by price) my first choice is the Gravely ZT HD/Ariens APEX. With the mulch kit installed on the 48-inch deck its really only 6 inches wider than the 42-inch and will go through a 54-inch gate. In fact you can buy the new 2020 50 (127 cm) TimeCutter Zero Turn Mower (75750) for less money. Great information! ft. Tow-Behind Lawn Sweeper. Being disabled money isnt coming in like it used to be but my back is very sensitive so wondering if it is worth the extra cash? Hi Jon, You wont over-stress your mower unless the grass is building up to the point where its stopping the deck. Hi Jeffery, No, I havent been paying attention but: Go to ariens.com and sign up for the newsletter. If you are interested in the Bad Boy I would buy from a local dealer or make sure if you buy from Tractor Supply that you can get it serviced locally. Find a local dealer Learn more. Nevertheless it was good convo back and forth. And I have a good mower shop just a mile away that is not a dealer, they will service whatever you bring. Setting: Hi Joe, I want to start off and say Im not picking on you this comment has to do with the industry as a whole. Based on my reading here (and other online platforms), Im pretty much in line with everyone elsereliability, durability, maintainability, reasonable cut (dont need golf course perfection! Consumer Reports agrees with me on this. Walker and Country Clipper. If you have the experience, a 60 inch or larger stand-on is the best choice for slopes. Here is my review: Cub Cadet hauler Ill put a picture below. The range of difference of each mower model is dependent on deck sizes or your dealer. Paul. Skaggs has a good blade change system, for no lift style. Ive taken over an old horse pasture. I lived in a condo that took care of the yard for 9 years so I havent mowed in almost a decade. I think they would have to be ordered. I would cut across the slope to ease strain on the hydros and would only have to drive up the slope in a few areas of the yard. Hi Laurrelle, The Walker is one of the best for hills. It cuts very well and will last you a long, long time. I just had a ..make my day Clint Eastwood moment but in a good way (smile). The Ariens has slightly larger rear tires for better traction and an offset deck so you can trim right around smaller obstacles like telephone poles. Do you think ZTRs would handle this? Titan has a 7/10 gauge high-strength steel turbo which forces the cutting deck. Not too worried about that because three of my neighbors have similar topography and mow with ZTRs. I have a feeling you will have to get into the 800-900 lbs, 50-60 inch ZTRs to get one that will work. Its not the FX (commercial version) that everyone feels is the best engine on the market. Love the articles. Join the discussionPaul, what is the blade speed on the Cub Cadet Ultima? Toro has introduced two new residential zero-turn mowers in their growing line of outdoor power equipment. There doesnt appear to be much difference between the two The Pro has slightly bigger transmission, 1 bigger rear tires and Kohler Confidant EFI Closed Loop EZT-740 engine with 12cc Hydro-Gear ZT 3400 transmission with charge pumps. From poor structural design to poor deck hangers that break and the fact that they have changed the mower from having 10 rear tires to 8 rear tires causes the mower to slide more easily, even on dry ground. The Toro Titan 10-gauge fabricated bullnose deck comes in sizes of 54 and 60 inches, which further places the Titans on a more heavy-duty level. Very comfortable to mow with The cut is even no lines. If I buy the Boulevard, Ill try to make that up to you somehow. I am now in the need for something more robust as the big dog has had a tough time on my farm. Its been more helpful than you know! 2. The second contractor uses a Walker mower. (see it here at the Home Depot) It will have the weight to give you great traction along the drainage ditch. Thought kubota z421kw was nice. It helps the fuel last longer and the escaping vapors wont wreck the environment. Well scratch my last replythe more I talk to my neighbors with riding mowers the more I hear that they wished they wouldve gone with a bigger deck even for our small 1/3 to 1/2 acre yardsIll hear that around 50 is what people think is enough/wish they wouldve gotten. One forum post claimed to have tested and found that parts are interchangeable. The seats on the Toro Titan and Timecutter are similarly comfortable. Hi Kirk, if you want the best cut possible get the Deere. It's the 50" model with a 24hp Kohler and 2800 series hydros. I am looking between the Ariens Ikon X 52 and the Toro MX5000. Any suggestions? I really like your reviews and expertise. At 1350 pounds it weighs 50% more than a similar size residential mower. Greetings Paul Its a very nice mower, cuts very well and it will last you many years. I mow our residential, flat, 1 acre yard with ~10 trees and fence in Pittsburgh, PA. The Ultimate Garage LED Light Testing Showdown. Hi Rob, Yes, there is a substantial difference between the Timecutter and HD models. In your case I suggest the Gravely. If youre seeking to dive into professional-grade mowing, you will need a great deal of horsepower since youll be whizzing through grasslands as frequently as the service requires; The Toro Titan runs on a 26-horsepower V-twin Kohler engine just the right definition of a match for fierce residential use and an experience of commercial benefit. The dealers near me have cub cadet and toro. Hi Larry, I have not seen that anyone has possession of one of the new Ryobi ZTRs yet. Toro 50" (127 cm) TimeCutter MX 5075 MyRIDE (75755TA) Toro 50" (127 cm) TimeCutter MX 5075 MyRIDE (75755TA) Sold out. I have looked at both in person and there is no comparison the ultra heavy duty Apex (same as the Gravely ZT HD that sells for about $5200) makes the ZT2 look very basic and average. Theres no safety feature for damages on this model since the machine is made averagely for expert and professional use. Imagine the horrors of owning a mower fully equipped with power and resistance that offers crap cut quality and tears the grass! I noticed right away the Deere appears to have a lighter frame, which I liked, so it weighs less. The Toro Titan has a grand quality of a transmission system; youre matched with Dual Hydrostatic HG-3100 for premium maneuverability, speed, and smoothness of conveyance. Fab 24.5 HP V-Twin Gas Zero-Turn Riding Mower with Smart Speed. (about $2699) This is a great, inexpensive mower and I know it will last years: Check it out here. 75316TA. Theres a blasting difference in budget between the two, which will highly influence your final decision. The second choice is the Toro Titan with MyRide. I have a rather small yard no more than 1.5 acres but I have a serious spinal cord injury that causes a very painful condition and constant mind numbing back pain so I probably shouldnt cut grass at all but I enjoy it and it allows me to feel productive which is something I miss ever since someones carelessness left me disabled about 4 years back. Just not sure I need that much but also dont want to deal with issues after I buy it!! Im moving into a just less than 3 acre lot/home. Also deciding between the deck size 54 ( 52 Exmark ) and both have a 60. If the last what could the cause be? They look good and could use sharpening but no dents. If you want the mower and need armrests here are the right ones: Cub Cadet Arm Rests. Im going to be down in the Bradley, Il area the middle of June. They both have the best cut. Scrape the underside of the deck clean with a plastic scraper or stiff milker brush when you sharpen the blades. In my opinion, the Toro deck cuts just as well and is actually a little more durable with the bullnose bumper along the front edge. They both have heavy-duty trannys, thick, fabricated decks, and very strong frames. Thanks. The XT2 should give you 10 years of service if you do the normal maintenance on it and dont let teenagers try and wreck it. At The Home Depot Toro TimeCutter MX5000 50 in. , and. The ONLY difference between the ZT2100 and ZT2200 is the 2100 has 3/4 inch axles (900 lb capacity) and the 2200 has 1-inch axles (1000) capacity. Thanks for all your informative responses. I own a summer camp with 3 large sport fields. The 50 inch Model 75750 will go through your gates with the side discharge up. Hi Pete, The Toro is very easy to work on. They finally realized that their real mission was to make the best mowers for fewer people instead of making mowers for the masses. He is a very good mechanic, but I want to help him with a proper mower. I have an ExMark 42 inch. My main priorities are ride comfort, ease of service, and durability. Do you know of any difference between the ones you get from the dealer and the big box stores? Always turn uphill. A detailed comparison between the three leading zero turn lawn mowersMusic: https://youtu.be/pHsHRSo78yQ Wrenches & Rides is a publication dedicated to automotive enthusiasts who enjoy working on their own cars. 2. Ariens or Toro? Im a big fan of the joystick steering and how tough the Boulevard is built for the price. The Toro, Kohler 7000 and Briggs ELS are just as good. It is fairly rough ground and has two moderately steep areas. Thanks for your reply. The JD dealers seems good and I looked at the Z700 series. A cheaper belt is a cheaper belt. Although I like the Ariens Edge and IKON XD they dont have a bagger for it right now. Otherwise, if youre seeking to only mow your yard that of course, wouldnt need you and your mowers attention every day, the Timecutter will do just fine plus its less expensive! Ive really been eyeing the MX5075 so Im glad you mentioned that one. The 375 gives me the R package, a 54 deck, and the 25 HP ELS engine. For the Titan, deck height adjustments are in quarter increments from 1.5 to 4.5 inches and are adjustable by a pin and foot pedal system, which is more closely associated with commercial ZTR mowers. 60 inch Standon ZTRs (my favorite) can handle slopes because if you get in trouble you just step off the mower and let it slide down the slope. CRAFTSMAN V20 RP 4.5 Paddle Switch Brushless Angle Grinder Review Model #CMCG451B. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Hi Jon, I have no preference. I suggest mulching your leaves in the fall. But I dont know if Id like the lighter Deere better than the heavier Cub, or if the heavier Cub would hold up and work better??? It uses commercial-grade ZT3100 transmissions. I will check out the Z355R. I have a one acre lot. Hi,Paul. The zero-turn is also a good residential mower. You can get it with the two lap bars but they also offer their Joystick Steering System. Mulching capability is also a consideration, since I would like to mulch the grass clippings and definitely want to avoid raking leaves. We are finally in the position to invest in a new mower and we are considering the 2020 Husqvarna Power Zero Turn Mowers Commercial M-ZT61 Kawasaki (967 17 70-08), $7,000. Hi Paul you have a great site, easily the best reviews around! Check it out here: https://homedepot.sjv.io/4V5DL I wish they didnt have so many mowers to choose from because it makes deciding that much harder. I prefer a mower where the operator (not the whole mower) has a suspension seat. We need a new mower and at our Husky dealership they had a Rhomba like battery mower that can do up to a 35% grade. Two questions who made that mower for Sears and any idea if I was lucky with the Deere, thi is normal wear (typically 35-50 hrs per season) or this is an issue? and 2. You are paying quite a bit extra with the Toro to get the suspension platform. All you have to do is get a new aluminum caster to replace the broken one, and youre good to go! The decks are robust and can handle the work. Ive done extensive research, and my head is spinning. It will handle the Cyclone Rake Z-10. That is an easy adjustment and found on page 20 of the operators manual. He can get parts for the Jonsered and many of the parts he has on the shelf for the Husqvarna tractors and ZTRs will fit. I am orderingI dont think I can live with the regrets Ill have if I pass on this and buy a $4200 Gravely/Hustler locally! Its a nice mower but I have been having issues with cut quality. Toro Timecutter decks are also made of 10-gauge steel but unlike the Titan, are either fabricated or stamped and come in sizes of 34, 42, 50, 54, and 60-inches respectively. Which models might you suggest? The John Deere Z345R gives you one of the best cuts on the market but the mower is lightweight and has small front caters which makes it much rougher to ride on than the other brands. I like my Husqvarna tractor, and the Z254F is on lots of recommended lists, but the user reviews concern me. Our budget is 3k and under at Lowes our yard has 20 pines that line both sides that we have to cut in between and some minor slopes. what do you think ? Toro TimeCutter MX Mulch Kit. 2021 Cub Cadet Lawn and Garden Tractors New Models! The MX series is in between the TimeCutter and the Timecutter HD. They offer free set up and home delivery. With a little practice, either one of these mowers will mow your lawn a lot quicker than your 46-inch lawn tractor. Thanks Paul. 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